Talk:Sun Shangxiang

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I'll revise this page when I get back tonight, really needs a face lift and some more information that is clearly missing. - Rogue Sergeant 16:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I cleaned a while ago the best I could when saw this article,(compare the selected versions in history) it only had her 4th weapon and the short bio right out the game. So I added the rest really. Please do get this cleaned up more. kudos!

First appearance
I notice a trend when it comes to a characters "First Appearance". Normally it is listed when they are playable for the first time, since that is the case i am going to edit her page and put it as DW2. since in the original DW Game, SSX was a UNPC, only playable via cheat code. Gaining her first truly playable appearance in DW2. Ixbran 21:04, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps cheat code means something different today, so I'll elaborate a bit. The cheat codes in the first DW are along the lines of an easter egg type of code. As in, something the programmers included as a bonus for fans who were keen on spotting it. Like the infamous Konami Command or the arcade codes to unlock secret characters in Marvel vs Capcom. It's something the company themselves created for fans to enjoy. Sun Shang Xiang's DW render on her page is taken from the game's actual databook, not a fan's render of her appearance within this game.


 * The first DW cheats are not a hacking or debugging tool that breaks the game's original coding is someway. They're not the cheat codes that allows you to "keep Aeris in your party after the first disc" or to "keep every recruitable character in Star Ocean 2". Short answer to both of these cheat examples: the game developers didn't want you to. Sake neko 22:13, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ahh i understand, but still. doesnt the fact that you needed a cheat, any kind of cheat, still discount her from being a main playable character? Ixbran 23:55, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't think so. Any fighting game fan would say any legit playable character -even those using an in-game cheat or unlockable ones- would be counted as a playable character. The developers made so-and-so available even if they are hidden and players can use 'em if they knew the code.


 * Going back to my Marvel vs. Capcom example (the first game not the sequels), you would need a code to play the character Roll in the arcade editions of this game. You would need to hold start and basically draw a "Z" shape across the character select screen. If you did it correctly, you'd get Roll instead of Wolverine. Or something like that, it's been awhile. She wasn't a superb character or anything, but she'd have her own background music, winposes, moveset, and ending for herself. She was just a fun to use bonus character.


 * Omega Force didn't go that far for adding extra stuff for Sun Shang Xiang (she was a female clone of Zhou Yu and she had no ending), but she's in the same boat as Roll. A code doesn't change the fact that she's a playable character. Sake neko 15:06, August 27, 2011 (UTC)