User talk:Sake neko

Past discussions can be seen here: User talk:Sake neko/Archive, User talk:Sake neko/Archive deux

PNG & JPG Image Types
Out of sheer curiosity, do you prefer image files with the JPG extension or those labeled as PNG? I usually upload PNG images since they display little to no noise unlike JPG. Of course, I have no intention of replacing every other image type with PNG files since that would be too tedious even for me. What I'd like to know is your thoughts and preferences regarding this simple inquiry. Humble Novice (talk) 00:33, December 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I now see why you prefer JPG images for this site, but I'd have to respectfully disagree with your fourth reason against PNG files. For one, it's not all that difficult to convert JPG to PNG through graphic programs like Photoshop. And plus, PNG offers lossless compression which maintains the overall quality of the image when resized for whatever purpose. Regardless, I do thank you for taking the time to explain your image type preferences. Though I still prefer PNG, I am willing to upload images as JPG if they're larger than expected. Humble Novice (talk) 02:44, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Gradient Removal
Why are we removing every gradient in this site? Do they bother you that much? Frankly, this isn't just for us. All this is done to please visitors reading the articles we have. I don't think it's fair to assume that every viewer thinks they're a nuisance unless we do some kind of poll to tally their preferences. Humble Novice (talk) 05:49, December 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what kind of mobile device you're using to justify the current changes, but the solid colors we chose are not appearing in the mobile preview either. It could be that Wikia has yet to implement the necessary updates in making them work. So how about this? I can just add an approximate background color for the mobile device you're using while leaving the gradients intact for the other browsers.


 * As for the text, we can just enlarge them appropriately or use a different font depending on which one suits this site the most. What matters right now is that we make the site more presentable to readers. I've also received some positive feedback regarding the gradients we've been using so far. Why not keep them if people are happy with the layout? Humble Novice (talk) 23:10, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Hyrule Warriors
I didn't want to make the page without having proper information. In the past when new game pages have been made, usually due to small info, its always been nominated for a speedy deletion till more info could be provided. If you think that there is enough information to warrant it having its own page, then I shall go ahead and do that then. Ixbran (talk) 22:59, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

Helen's Japanese voice actress
Hello! I've been wondering for some time: who is voicing Helen in Japanese dub of "Legends of Troy"? I can't find any info on it. AntonKutovoi (talk) 20:29, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * I see. While I didn't really liked Japanese dub of "Legend of Troy", I still was interested at people, who voiced it. Anyway, Thanks for replying!AntonKutovoi (talk) 14:28, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Copied Articles
Sorry to disturb you at this moment, but I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this issue I came across. Apparently, the administrator of the Dynasty Warriors Online Z Wiki extracted sections of our character articles and passed them off as their own. You can see the similarities between ours and theirs. From what I've gathered, this has been going on since the formation of Yuri's Dynasty Warriors Online Wiki before its deactivation due to the founder's untimely death. I'm concerned since ignoring this problem may compromise the integrity of our articles. I've even tried talking to the perpetrator about it, but all I got was this response. What do you think? Humble Novice (talk) 10:39, February 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Surprisingly enough, I managed to convince the admin of that site into linking their character articles with ours. I just don't think it's fair to let anyone copy our articles for their own site without even distilling the information when most of the hard work put into making them was done by you and our other contributors. Humble Novice (talk) 22:44, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Collapsible Galleries, Gallery Tabs, & Videos
I brought this up to Humble and Kyosei, we can go ahead and put character videos on their specific character galleries, as long as they are kept in their own separate tab with the collapsible/tab feature were using. Just wanted to give you the heads up in case you wanted to help. I'm going to start with the SW character pages, then move onto the DW Character pages, then the WO ones. Ixbran (talk) 20:46, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Nobunaga no Yabou Online Tenka Mugen Sho NPC
Hello! Sorry, but can you confirm please, who is this guy: https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/nol/tenkamugen/chapter3_3.htm I guess it's Motochika, but I'm not entirely sure AntonKutovoi (talk) 15:05, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * I See. Thanks for answering! AntonKutovoi (talk) 15:31, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

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simply because I'm too depressed to care at this moment, I'm just going to come out and say you really constantly come off as a controle freak some times. You come off as this guy with a this high and mighty attitude, one who can boss people around and tell them what they can/can't do despite the fact you hold absolutely no authority in this wiki; your not an admin, mod, and you havent even been given the ability to delete or rename images. You're a normal wiki contributor, just like me, humble, and everyone aside from Kyosei.

Sure there are times when you are useful and you've been contributing too this wiki a long time, there's no doubting that its because of you it was in as great a shape as it had been before others started editing it. But seriously, the way you approach people and do other things, you need to stop acting like your in charge of everything, because it gets very tiresome and irritating. You're not in charge, so you need to stop acting like it. Stop telling people "no", and stop going in and undoing peoples contributions just because you don't think its necessary, because you simply come off as doing it simply because you don't like it.

You make make contributing too this wiki more a chore than anything else, and it's getting to the point I feel like I'm forcing my self to contribute here simply to pass time, rather than enjoying my self via providing useful info to help people. Your taking the fun out of helping people from me by the way you act, it's getting really tiresome.

I dunno, I'm just ranting, I'm sorry for being a bother. I'll finish up on the Edit characters moveset page with what I can, and then I think i'm going to stop contributing here for a while. My stress and anxiety levels constantly spike with worry when I make edits here, because it always feels like your stalking me to undo what I contribute, and with the depression issues I've been going through lately, it's not helping.

I'm sure my being inactive here will do us both some good. Ixbran (talk) 07:08, March 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Due to medical issues i don't feel comfortable letting out in public, I'm confined to my house 24/7. My daily cycle is; me waking up, turning my computer on, and sitting here till sun down while playing games, occasionally eating and not much else. I'm not allowed to get a job because I get SSI (Social Securety Income) as a result of said medical issues. If I am found getting money outside of my SSI, I'll be cut off. So my family tells me not to do anything of the sort because it helps my family get by. Not to mention my SSI is constant, while money from Job's fluctuates and can be inconsistent.

I edit wikis as a hobby to help pass the time, and it's the closest thing I've ever had to having a "Job". Because I'm unable to actually work, editing to wiki's gives me a sense of accomplishment, that I'm actually contributing to society in some way. It helps to boost my self esteem and helps me to forget the situation I have at home. So when I have my edits undone or removed, while it's likely something being done for the betterment of the wiki, it always makes me feel like I'm being attacked directly. It makes me feel like my efforts to help are overlooked and unneeded, which gets me to question my self worth. Hence why I'm constantly getting into edit wars with you over trivial things such as image names, pictures on profiles and such.

Editing wikis gives me a sense of validation and that I'm important, even though I know its nothing important, it feels important to me.

I am usually dealing with the reality of my situation constantly, days i'm very busy on a wiki are a result of things going wrong at home. I look for anything, the smallest thing that could be overlooked or ignored, and I make the edit i feel is necessary. It may not seem important to everyone else, but it is so to me.

Editing wikis is my coping mechanism for dealing with stress and depression. So when you go in and undo or change things I contribute, instead of making them go away, your actions add onto my already high levels of stress and depression. I know it is not your intent to do so, that your just trying to make the wiki the best it can be, I understand that. It's just some days I need that sense of validation and importance more than others.

but yea, im sorry for rambling. I'm currently leveling up a Naginata wielder on SW3 so i can get the C5 description for its moveset. after that I think i'm gonna stop for the night, maybe go and play Super Mario 3D World, something to help calm me down for the night.

Also, I'm sorry for any and all the trouble I've caused since joining the wiki staff. I know I'm not the most reliable source for help or info, but as i said it gives me a sense of validation when I add something i feel contributes. I apologize for all the times i've verbally attacked you, and I appreciate you willing to listen to me while explaining my reasons for acting the way I do around you. I hope you have a pleasant evening, and that when you head to bed, you have sweet dreams. Ixbran (talk) 08:17, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

4Th Weapon Acquisition Videos
PeJ of the KWForums has claimed that since he is going to be doing videos to acquire all the 4th weapons of the game, we on the Koei wiki are permitted to post said videos on the wiki for those who need visual aid when it comes to meeting all quest requirements to unlock said weapons. Do you think this would be a good idea, posting the videos here on the wiki? Ixbran (talk) 02:34, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Ixbran (talk) 08:29, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Personally I find that losing one or two views while watching it directly on the site is fine, when they can easily click the video and then be taken directly too his submission afterwards or during. And I always thought video views on wikis added onto total number of views the video had, weird that it doesn't. Personally I like having videos on the wiki. Gives it a bit more, i dunno how to describe it, just makes the wiki more interesting knowing that there are also videos here one can watch that goes with everything else.

Naming Peeve
It's merely my way of naming files in general. I don't see any reason to change the little things I do unless you're so insistent on doing things a certain way like a particular user is known for. My apologies if the naming bothers you, but I can't always mimic your editing style completely. After all, the wiki has no rigid standards when it comes to file names so long as they make some sense to our readers. And even if that's not the case, all of them are properly categorized for the sake of the viewers. Humble Novice (talk) 20:40, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Guntama Artist
Sorry to bother you, but there's something I need to know. Is this person the artist who drew the character illustrations for Guntama? Humble Novice (talk) 13:21, May 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * On another note, are you interested in writing a summary of the Sengoku Musou 4 manga? Someone managed to upload raw images of it right here. Humble Novice (talk) 14:08, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Hyrule Warriors
Question: where did you get your info regarding the Goron being an enemy type? Ixbran (talk) 08:08, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Ixbran (talk) 12:20, May 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ahh, those aren't Gorons shes fighting. Those are Bokoblin. I think the comment regarding her sword is from the fact that it has Goron tribal symbols on it. I take it your not much of a Zelda fan then?

Boxes

 * "This is so that no matter what the games box shape, the images will always take up the same amount of space. Nothing will stretch out the info box too wide, & none of the box arts will make the info-box be too big length wise."
 * "but they won't always be the same size... that only really applies for recent games"

It is because the game boxes of recent games are so different in design and shape that i figured this would be beneficial too the Wiki. PS3 game boxes are wider than most, Xbox boxes are average in height and width, and Wii U boxes, as shown with Hyrule Warriors, are far more 'tall' with the box art not being as wide as the other two. Going with the 200x230px will make it so that, regardless of box shape, they will take up the same amount of space.

case in point, in the Hyrule Warriors page due to how narrow the game box is, it is 200x281px in size/shape. That makes it unnecessarily long, vertically, resulting in the box appearing bigger in the info box template compared to the other box arts.

Since this info-box for games is used by all the games on the wiki, they will all always fit the 200x230px parameters, regardless of box size/shape. It will always be a certain height, or with, regardless of shape, and that will result in a more professional looking game info box on every single game article page.

That's why i feel that the 200x230px is necessary. It adds consistency too the way the pictures of the games cover art is presented in the info box. Ixbran (talk) 09:39, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Ixbran (talk)
 * Ahh, alrighty then. I just thought it would help benefit the wiki, but i do understand your point. Sorry if i caused any trouble.

Interwiki linking
I just saw your edit you made on the one Zelda page. It is basically an unwritten rule to link to another wikia over an external unaffiliated wiki, so that edit was correct. You could link to both of them if you wish like lxbran has done, but you should by no means be leaving out zeldapedia in favor of the external wiki if you are going to be linking outside of koei wiki, especially since both zelda wikis seem to be of equal competence. WiseCrack (talk) 02:17, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Pictures of Real People
I noticed you uploaded a picture of MASA on this site a few hours ago. So, does that mean it's alright to attach images of people working with Koei in their respective articles now? Or should there be a special reason behind doing so? Humble Novice (talk) 23:19, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Character Symbolism
Greetings. If you're not too busy at the moment, could you help me understand the symbolism behind each of these fifth weapon names from Dynasty Warriors Online? I thought you'd be up for the task since you have more knowledge about this kind of thing than I do.


 * Cao Pi - 絶無奏
 * Pang De - 金剛不壊
 * Ling Tong - 疾風怒濤
 * Guan Ping - 天龍斬空刀
 * Xingcai - 雷帝
 * Zuo Ci - 常天磐符

Please take your time. I look forward to knowing what each of these weapon names stand for. Humble Novice (talk) 18:26, June 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick analysis, Sake. I suppose there's nothing else we can add to the pages of those respective characters other than Guan Ping's. Humble Novice (talk) 18:53, June 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * As far as I can tell, Tianlong is not referenced in any of Guan Yu's weapons so far. Does that mean we can mention it in Guan Ping's character symbolism page instead? Humble Novice (talk) 19:05, June 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * I just checked; it's definitely not in Guan Yu's weaponry page. On a side note, the Dynasty Warriors 7 weapon Cloudburst does reference Tianlong though it isn't solely affiliated with one character due to the abundance of sword users at the time. Humble Novice (talk) 19:18, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Hyrule Warriors Renders
You do have a point. I had attempted to wait till the high res .png versions of the images were available, but i got impatient. I'll try to do better to wait for the images true high quality variations from now on. Ixbran (talk) 00:48, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

RE:DLC Costumes
Ahh, I was under the assumption the costumes were going to be that way, in the variation that I had changed it too. so in reality there are still two more costume parts for the courage set, 2 more for the wisdom set, and two unrevealed costumes for the Power Set?

Huh, I hadn't thought that was the case ... My guess is the other costumes will be Link and Zeldas OoT and SS designs. Given the costumes are based on the powers of the triforce, its safe to assume that Ganondorf will be playable, and the DLC costumes for the power set will be Ganondorfs OoT and TP designs. It makes sense he wouldn't have a third, since he didn't appear in SS. Thank you for clearing that up for me Sake. Ixbran (talk) 00:59, July 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well considering the fact that the Triforces of Courage, Wisdom, and Power have always been related to Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf respectively, it wouldnt make sense to asociate the terms to anyone else. also given the costume counts: 3 for courage and wisdom, 2 for power, it would make sense if they were costumes based off other incarnations: specifically Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time, and Skyward Sword since those three are considered the Major 3rd person 3D Zelda games, aside from wind waker.

Given the fact that of those three games, Ganondorf was only featured in two of them (Demise was a new villain introduced in SS to represent Ganondorfs origins) it would make sense for the costumes too be tied too those games for those characters, Ocerina of Time and TP costumes for Link, Zelda, and ganondorf, and SS costumes for Zelda and Link. I hope thats how it turns out, that'd be really cool! Man this has me even more excited for this game than before! Thanks again for clearing the issue up Sake. Ixbran (talk)

HW Character Titles
Characters official titles are shown in their gameplay trailers. Just because some of their titles match their occupatiojns, doesnt mean they arent the titles given for the games.


 * Link "The Hero"
 * Zelda "Princess of Hyrule"
 * Impa "Hyrulean Capetian"
 * Midna "Twilight Princess"
 * Agitha "Princess of Insects?"
 * Fi "Sword of the Goddess" (this is the only one not with an official english translation.

You need to stop moving characters titles to their occupation, it creates an inconsistency between the pages. Characters titles from their play demos go in their title sections of their info box. Ixbran (talk) 01:58, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

DWO
Not all of them. Only the ones that do have noticeable differences like additional pants, sleeves, hairstyle changes, etc. Is it too much to ask or do you want to just cut them down to satisfy the iconoclast in you? Humble Novice (talk) 17:16, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Guntama Info
Sake, would you be interested in writing information for characters who play a role in the story of Guntama? I've been screen capturing the script so far while playing the game and I'd like to share what I've collected for reference. Please let me know if you're up for the task so I can prepare an image hosting account for them. Humble Novice (talk) 08:05, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't want to force you if you're not interested, but I think it wouldn't hurt to check if there's anything of note about the story or its characters. Should I upload the images on Photobucket or pack them on a WinRAR file for you to download? Humble Novice (talk) 08:23, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * You can download the images right here: link


 * If the download speed is not fast enough for you, then you can just ask me to put them on Photobucket instead. By the way, some of the limited time events I came across do have stories. Unfortunately, I didn't think of recording those at the time. My apologies. Humble Novice (talk) 08:46, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see, but what about the characters? Are they any different from Koei's previous iterations of them in other titles? And also, the game recently added an extra mode I'm unfamiliar with. Do you know what it's about? I posted the mode's tutorial in the "Game Info" folder if you haven't looked at it yet. As for the images, I'll just upload them in the Photobucket account I made and add any new ones there for referential purposes. Humble Novice (talk) 08:57, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Here's the Photobucket account: link


 * Feel free to check whenever you want because I'll be updating it every now and then. Also, I may use this account to upload screenshots of story events from the upcoming Shin Sangoku Musou Blast if possible. Humble Novice (talk) 09:27, July 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Like I said before, I don't want to force you into translating them if you believe there's nothing new the game has to offer. As for Blast, I have a feeling they might recycle story events from the eighth title while integrating the new characters here and there, but that's just speculation on my part. Humble Novice (talk) 09:39, July 27, 2014 (UTC)

Voice Actors
The Erin Fitzgerald page, why does it need deletion? Does it not list other roles she has played as well? I am asking to help better understand what is expected from such pages. Thank you, SonsofZeruiah (talk) 02:49, August 6, 2014 (UTC)SonsofZeruiah


 * Would it be appropriate to build a page for Kirk Thornton? He was the last voice actor I wanted to build a page for, but I see the last two were not in enough Koei projects. Would a page for Thornton be deleted? or is their enough for him to merit one? Thank you, SonsofZeruiah (talk) 19:56, August 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * The credits I have found in just a bit of research claims the narrator for Fist of the North Star, Cao Cao for DW since 5 and Warriors Orochi 1 and 2, Nobunaga Oda for SW and possibly SW 2, and Yoshinari Mori in Kessen IIISonsofZeruiah (talk) 17:16, August 8, 2014 (UTC)

DW Battles
Does the more recent battle of Xinye count as a sperate battle then the battle of Bowanpo? thank you, SonsofZeruiah (talk) 18:09, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

Dragon Quest Heroes
Seems Koei is doing another Warriors style collaboration. This time with Square Enix's Dragon Quest series.Just wanted to give you the heads up for when readying the wiki. Ixbran (talk) 08:40, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Tables
Come now, is it that difficult for you to work with complex tables that much? I've done it so far without any complaints, plus new cards tend to come in small batches. If you have that much trouble working with them, perhaps a more streamlined table is in order. Take this for example.

You have one space for stats and another for skills. In regards to the skills section, I believe we should remove the descriptions once a separate table for them has been made. And also, how can indents be cumbersome to work with when line breaks are more fallible to typographical errors? Also, the lighter colors aren't that distracting since the information is still readable. I get that you value info quality over visual presentation, but does prioritization have to be a huge demerit for the latter? Humble Novice (talk) 20:07, September 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean to "belittle" your criticism. All I'm doing is finding a way for both of us to be happy. So far, you seem unwilling to compromise when I'm eager to do the coding myself for our benefit. Furthermore, how would the table inconvenience users when the only ones adding info on the Mitama page are you and me? Humble Novice (talk) 21:02, September 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's mere speculation. How do you know it won't isolate users who are willing to write info but have little exposure to coding? And for that matter, the whole thing becomes rather moot when the info will eventually be done, wouldn't you say? Now there's an idea. We can use your format for the time being to add data on the Quiz Battle Mitama and then I can change the tables accordingly once the game is no longer in service. Isn't that a better solution for us and our potential co-editors? Humble Novice (talk) 21:48, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Casual Editors
Your desire to make things user-friendly for casual editors is understandable, but wouldn't you prefer a smaller number of devoted editors instead? I have nothing against new blood if it means more additional content for the site, but those types are rare as far as I'm concerned. The way you mentioned them in our last conversation gives me the impression that you'd rather have a dozen more members around to help out, though I hope that isn't the case since quantity doesn't necessarily give way to quality. I mean, would you be willing to correct every single mistake an editor makes and spend less time working on your own unique contribution as a result? It's manageable with only a few of us around, but multiply our numbers by 10 or 100 and there's no telling how we'll be able to organize ourselves efficiently, let alone stop the flow of stub articles. But if that's what you want, then there's no helping it. Humble Novice (talk) 22:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you post some book scans regarding Goemon's approx 30 years of age?
Hi. Was wondering where you find your information regarding Goemon's approx age of 30. Thanks.174.126.222.44 09:57, November 9, 2014 (UTC)ann

Dynasty Warriors Blast Legends
Sake, are you free right now? I'm looking for someone who can write summaries of the new character legends in Shin Sangoku Musou Blast. Since you're the only active editor I know who can fully understand the language and its nuances, would you care to do it? I managed to archive the script for each one right here: link

There are some characters I have yet to acquire, so I'll notify you if I have their stories uploaded. Humble Novice (talk) 03:04, December 9, 2014 (UTC)


 * A simple "no" would have sufficed, but I admit I went too far. It was never my intent to offend you or anyone, so I apologize for the rudeness. Humble Novice (talk) 05:43, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Hidetada's VA
I have been wondering: how exactly we should list Tokugawa Hidetada's seiyuu? On the official site, he is listed as Shouta Ebina (海老名翔太), yet in every other source he goes under the name Shouhei Koyama (小山翔平). Judging by his Twitter (https://twitter.com/nantokaikiru), it seems that it's his stage name that he is going to use now. AntonKutovoi (talk) 16:11, December 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright, then, waiting for the episode credits XD I have to say, I was a little surpised to see a a debutant voice actor, not belongig to the any agency to appear in major (somewhat) role. AntonKutovoi (talk) 16:21, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

Voice Actors
I believe you once told Sons of Zeruiah that at least 4 or 5 roles per voice actor would be fine. So which is it to be exact? Humble Novice (talk) 00:04, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

My Pictures of Yukimura
Ariya Sanada (talk) 15:17, February 6, 2015 (UTC)Hi there. :) Did you delete my new pictures of Yukimura? If so, WHY???

Thanks, at least cause of this
Along with Humble Novice pointing out about my stupid self pity (cause I actually am often pissed off at myself for invoking most of your annoyed demeanor for my stupid bullshit I pull off), I have to at least thank you for the pages you've fixed. Me trying to change things may seem like me playing a stupid argument game with you in terms of edits, but in the end someone like you at least has much better choices at de-fluffing pages. I can at least get descriptive, but there's such thing as too descriptive since I just ****ing suck at de-fluffing... =__=; Right now I openly admit outright I hate myself for what I've been doing, cause it's not acceptable but I somehow keep doing it anyway. SneaselSawashiro (talk) 05:03, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

Wow.
You were ****ing right. Especially on Jiang Wei's section........please. By all means, just...bite my arm off. Bite anything off. I swear. Wow. I am so ****ing blind for life.

Context: The sentence that actually mentions the "issen" part of Jiang Wei's Four Sages Single Flash Lv 11 weapon.

YEAH, I AM VERY DUMB. SneaselSawashiro (talk) 09:27, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

Murashige's History Page
If my adding to the history part of Murashige's page was annoying, I apologize, I had been working on his history section for the last couple of days in preparation to make a page for him on my free time. When I saw the page had already been added, I thought that it would be no harm to insert what I had written. SonsofZeruiah (talk) 17:35, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Mouri Motonari: Chikai no Sanshi (more correct title)
Hey. I asked someone and the reply was: "It reads also Sanya, but in this case Sanshi is correct. English of the Boxspine is also Sanshi." -- http://ns348841.ip-91-121-109.eu/psxdata/images/covers/J/M/SLPS-01285/SLPS-01285-B-ALL.html 89.180.156.89 09:42, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Free Mode
Did you really have to remove everything i added to the page for Free Mode? I know it would need some cleaning up, but i just figgured the page needed to be a little bit easier to find the differences than by searching through the entire page like you'll have to do now.

Hengara (talk) 10:35, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Ocarina
I just watched the Niconico live stream event, the Ocarina is kept in the games inventory and accessed like the other items in the game. Ixbran (talk) 03:30, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Ixbran (talk) 03:33, September 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just like how the items are treated. Everyone can use the items in the game, as they are nessissary to take down bosses and traverse through specific environments. But I am guessing you dont play the game since you didnt know that.

Ixbran (talk) 03:38, September 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Seriously, would you just stop! I saw how the item was used, they access it from the items menu, just like the bombs, potions, and hammer. How it is unlocked is irrelevant. It is used like the other items in the item inventory menu, so that makes it an item.

Ixbran (talk) 03:42, September 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Its treated as an item in game, and called an item by the hosts of the Niconico stream. What it is called on the site is irrelevant if its treated as an item in-game. Seriously, you need to stop.


 * For your information it was already confirmed that the content of the 3DS game can be unlocked on the Wii U version by synchronizing them together, not just the characters. Last weeks famitsu magazine article showed that the cutsenes from the new story mode were from the Wii U version of the game. All the items and bonus features, minus the character swapping mechanic, would be ported over. Maybe if you actually cared about the game, and kept up on the minor updates and not just the big ones, you would actually know that. Ixbran (talk) 03:49, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

daa
Oh, thanks for the info. I had only seen the use of "Angelique Limoges" in my seach (which goes with the "french theme" of the serie, Limoges being an accurate french name -like Collet-), and so did not know that they sometimes spelled it otherwise even in some official art and books. I trully wish Ruby Party was more consistent with names... Does the correction from Rimoge into Limoges bother you? I can change it back if so.

Zeynel (talk) 00:50, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Wang Yuanji
Okay, I am a bit confused on the reason you undid my edit on the Wang Yuanji page, I know you explained it in your edit summary, but it's not completely clear. Every other Playable Character in Jin is also listed as Wei in that little box that says her force, I don't see how she is the only one that doesn't qualify as both, Especially since she like the others, also serve Wei at one point. I'm sorry if this comes of as rude or offensive, I didn't intend it to be

Edit: Sorry, the first time I accidently left this under someone's message.

Dragonofshu (talk) 00:53, December 6, 2015 (UTC)Dragonofshu

Well in that case I'll fix the Faction for Zhang Chunhua for you, because it might as well be correct, even if I don't like how we determine the factions.

Dragonofshu (talk) 02:45, December 6, 2015 (UTC)Dragonofshu

Would you have this changed, please?
Humble Novice told me that you don't allow the female NPCs from Samurai Warriors to be added as a page unless they have multiple game roles (something you should state on the rules before having others deleting pages with content from the wiki). Well, I created two of them: one was Teru Kushihashi, which had only one role, so from the rules I don't mind it deleted, but the first one, was Otsū Ono, a character who appeared in SW2, SW2XL and SW4, which means she has multiple roles (as stated in my article). Why was it removed?

I'm sure you're dead ****ing mad as hell at me right now
Yeah, I know. I'm doing bullshit things again at the touch of my fingers. So far, to you, nothing I do has been right, EVER. If that's the case, why haven't you slammed either a ban hammer or send an assassin after me already? Cause seriously, "if you need a break that's fine", until this shit happens over and over again. One error after another from me to drive you nuts. SneaselSawashiro (talk) 00:58, December 27, 2015 (UTC)

Problematic user/Edit warring
I'm sure you may have seen this already, but I thought I might bring this to your attention. This user "xRighteous" is edit warring with other users (without proof of his claims) along with insulting them.

http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/XRighteous

http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.185.28.181

I wasn't sure who to speak to on this issue, so please forgive me if this is to be directed to someone else.

For the sake of full disclosure, XRighteous is a user who was banned from the Behind the Voice Actors website - which I am an admin of - for behaviour similar to this. I apologise for any harm this user's drama has caused and I hope things can be sorted out. --NCZ (talk) 23:02, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Problematic user/NCZ
There is a user by the name of "NCZ" who thinks he can get away with  advocating a silly erroneous credit on the internet but doesn't realize who he's up against.

I like how he's requesting "proof" as though another anonymous pair of hands behind a keyboard claiming "It was definitely not Douglas Rye" i s  going to constitute as proof. Sound logic! Anyway...h e claims he had no involvement in coming up with this credit - orginal quote: ''"EDIT: lmao it wasn't even me who came up with any of those credits." ''But the editor's opinion here states otherwise.

 As you can see here, h e's completely clueless when it comes to voice acting in video games (don't even get me started on anime) and how he's an  Administrator on that wretched site is beyond anyone's comprehension. He clearly  doesn't have a grasp on what Rye's vocal range is really like, and I'll bet he hasn't watched a single union dub with Rye in it in his entire life (that's a story for an entirely diffrent time).



His postings have no  credibility whatsoever, despite what he states.







It seems after all this time, you still have to slap my hand each time for my insolence
Just like it says. Again, I've done things that prompt you to say "cut the crap you little bastard". As well as "you're doing this stupid thing again when you can just do this instead". I seriously wonder how much more pissed off you can be at me. But of course, yes I'm dead sure I can't be forgiven and the like. Whatever happens to me is my fault that can't be stressed enough it seems. And yeah, my speciality seems to be "not making sense" and having you clean up after me which never seems to be good at all. I'm the arrogant historical Zhuge Liang with massive flaws while you're the wise Xun Yu who knows how to play the game... SneaselSawashiro (talk) 02:54, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

New Mitama Style
When you said the Mitama system for Toukiden 2 has nothing new to offer, did you mean that in general or that the info on the new type and its properties were not worth mentioning on the main article? I'm concerned because the way you commented on your edits makes it seem like you think I'm lying. Humble Novice (talk) 08:17, March 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * I was referring to the new "Control" (繰) type itself, not the whole tamafuri set. How could it possibly be old if it's only been introduced in the second game? Humble Novice (talk) 08:35, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Eiketsuden
Yeah, a spin off game, just like Strikeforce. Given the patterns with how they make their spin off titles, the game will end up influencing the mainstream DW games in some way-shape or form. Just like how DW SF introduced weapon switching, and how DW7 and DW8 included the feature. DWSF2 introduced Cai Wenji, a character dressed in blue who was placed within the Kingdom of Wei. Again scans show Leibin standing along side with the forces of Shu and is a key player character in the game. So far all evidence is pointing to him being a Shu character. Fictional or not doesnt matter, because last time I checked characters like Guan Suo, Bao Sanniang, and Lu Linqui were all fictional. Linqui being a Koei interpretation of Lu Bus quasy historical daughter. Ixbran (talk) 20:15, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Ixbran (talk) 20:25, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Again, the scan clearly shows a high quality cinematic screen shot of Leibin is aligned with Shu, so maybe if you would bother to look at the damned thing it could help. But regardless he will be moved to Shu eventually when more info can convince you of what the majority of us already know.

I just wanted to say I'm sorry for being such a dick about this. I do not know why but for some reason that event had just got me really heated up, and I feel like my behavior was completely out of line. I got angry over nothing, and I shouldn't have snapped at you the way I had. Again, I am very sorry.the work you do here is always for the benefit of the wiki, and at times I let my emotions cloud my judgment, and often need to remind my self you just do what you do because you feel its the best for the wiki. Again, I am very sorry. Ixbran (talk) 23:55, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

Berserk characters
I may need your help with setting up Berserk character articles. Unless you'd like to do them. &#123;&#123;SUBST:User:Hiromichi/sig2&#125;&#125; (talk) 19:10, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

I'm surprised you got the playable cast's articles up. Unless you wanna use youtube videos of Berserk Musou to gather data, good luck maybe getting the npc articles up. &#123;&#123;SUBST:User:Hiromichi/sig2&#125;&#125; (talk) 01:11, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Question
Hi Sakeneko, why the topic of Gyuki, Dodomeki and Hundun not have "Role in Games" ???

(asked by user: Duy goby

Welcome Back
Hey dude, welcome back. You were gone a really long time, what happened, everything alright? I'll be honest i was kinda worried there for a while when I noticed you hadn't been editing since May. Glad to see youre back. If you dont mind my asking, what happened? Ixbran (talk) 01:51, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Ixbran (talk) 03:17, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I see, I'm sorry to hear that you have started to feel that way towards the company. I my self still have a large passion for the company and try to contribute when I can for a project that piques my interest. Thank you so very much for filling out the info we needed for Darius's page it was sorely needed.

Dude, who cares about 'when' I cared about them? I care about them now and I'm trying to keep them consistant with the MS character profiles. I get your salty and everything, but why are you coming here and purpousfully undoing these things just to be mean when you said you left to avoid doing that in the first place? If you dont like how things are being done for the sake of Musou ☆ Stars then why dont you just ignore it? Because like it or not, the game or the company, its here and you know what its getting the franchises being represented in said game attention. People on various sites talking about MS are showing interest in the characters they dont recognise, including characters like Darius and Nobunyaga. And if their profile pages dont cover the info regarding their appearances in Musou stars then its gonna come off as us not carring. You might not care, but I certianly do and I am not going to let these character pages lack information simply because you think it 'looks ugly' and that you think i 'dont really care'. Because if that is the mind set your going to have while your here, then maybe you shouldn't be here.

I was actually happy to see you had come back, but now I'm wishing you had stayed away. We do not want, or need, your negativity if all your going to do is just push it and your views on how the wiki should be, especially when youve already admitted you dont even care about this wiki anymore. Ixbran (talk) 03:37, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

I prioritize MS over others because the Warriors games are something that make me happy. Have you ever bothered to think 'why' im so passionate about the series? Try asking, the answer might interest you. And just because I have a favorite franchise or genre in Koei's games doesn't mean I dont like their other titles. I try to provide information on games I've played, im not going to make edits regarding something I dont know because then I'd just be wasting everyone time.

Regarding the videos, i dont know if youre aware but the Wiki has changed how videos function on wikis now. The official youtube channels do get the hits when their videos are watched as embed videos on other sites now, so regardless of if they watch it on the wiki, or the official youtube post, the channel still gets notified of the view.

I post the videos here so that people will see it and want to watch it. Its a visual tactic, if people just see links plastered everywhere they will get over whelmed and only click certain ones. Where as a thumbnail sticking out amongst all this white will catch their attention. they might watch the video, see the characters play style, and then want to learn more about them. I forget what the term is called, but theres a term for when a person learns about something through a form of media they already enjoy, and through learning about it in that way their interest regarding the new subject is piqued and they go to learn it. Even if you hate Musou Stars, because of it people are learning about other unappreciated series like Harukanaru Toki no Naka de and Opoona. And the fact that your so insistant on treating Musou stars like some sort of disease ridden plague and keeping it off certian characters pages makes it feel like your just doing it to be spiteful. Again, I was happy to see you come back, not so much that youve dragged me into this due to your vendetta against me and my love for the Warriors series. I'm sorry that titles like Harukanaru Toki no Naka de dont interest me, but those just arent my style of games. However I do still find the characters appealing and I do want to learn more about them because of their appearance in MS. That is not a bad thing, and your coming off as it is. Ixbran (talk) 04:03, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

I am sorry that the series styles are unnapealing to me, really I am. I want to play them, but the older I get the less i find non-action based games appealing. It's one of the reasons that, as much as I love Final Fantasy I dont play the games because I dont enjoy turn based games anymore. I can only find enjoyment in action past games, games that make me think and act simultaneously. Honestly one of the reasons I like the DW games is because I have to act and think at the same time, it doesnt give me time to dwel on the bad possible outcomes from over thinking during my waiting turn in a turn based RPG.

Personally I feel having videos on character pages give browsers a look at a characters personality, and play style, to help them see if the character is one they might find interesting. a snippit at what they are like, and what they can do can do wonders for a persons opinion on said character.

Tokitsugu's trailer is surprising a lot of people online, because they werent expecting him to be as hard core and intense as he is. his voice is throwing a lot of people off when compared to his cute appearance, and people are liking him because of that. Having a characters play exhibition video on their page can help someone gain an interest in their character when just text and pictures alone might not do anything for them. Movement and sound do wonders for a persons perception of something. Ixbran (talk) 04:27, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to reply to this if I'm not supposed to, but I mean......in regards to Tokitsugu's voice....

IT'S KOU'ICHI-****ING-YAMADERA SneaselSawashiro (talk) 04:46, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * It's good to have you back, though I can't help but wonder what you've been doing these past few months. I know you're not one for small talk and you probably wouldn't really care what I'm about to say, but this site just isn't the same without you. I could never truly fill the void you left behind with your departure. And even though we've had our differences in the past, just know that I'm grateful to see you here once more. Humble Novice (talk) 21:13, November 29, 2017 (UTC)

Dynasty Warriors Manhua
I'm not sure if we talked about this before, but there's this manhua adaptation of Dynasty Warriors that I came across in the past. At first, I considered writing an article on it for the wiki, but then realized it might be best to ask you about it before doing so. I did some research on the artist and it turns out he works for a comic studio in Hong Kong that publishes officially-sanctioned works based on various IPs. Is it safe to say that the Dynasty Warriors manhua is indeed legitimate? Humble Novice (talk) 07:09, February 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * The link's not working? What about these?


 * Link 1: https://home.gamer.com.tw/creationDetail.php?sn=128326
 * Link 2: http://www.dm5.com/manhua-sanguowushuang/
 * Link 3: https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=52958


 * The first link shows some of the artist Xu Jingchen's previous works which include Onimusha, Tomb Raider, and more. It also has some info on the Dynasty Warriors comic, but I need some extra clarification just to be on the safe side. Humble Novice (talk) 07:41, February 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * I see. Well it's a good thing I asked before creating the article. I'll have to work on something else then. Humble Novice (talk) 08:04, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Sangokushi Koumei Den Manga
You're probably wondering why this comic is considered a Romance of the Three Kingdoms adaptation instead of an Eiketsuden one, right? Well, it's mainly because the creators advertised it like that according to the comic's softcover. Plus, it was published five years before the release of its video game counterpart. While Sousou Den also received an official comic adaptation, would it be accurate to say that the comics serve as precursors to the games, thus linking them to the Eiketsuden series? It's your call since you know the intricacies of this topic best. Humble Novice (talk) 20:17, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

Third-Party Game Roles
Are there any third-party games to consider when listing a voice actor's roles in the wiki? Unlight and Tokimeki Restaurant are the only ones that seem to matter. Do any of the various titles in My GAMECITY count? If so, which one? Humble Novice (talk) 13:34, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Tomohiko Sho
He knows about his article. What do you make of this? Humble Novice (talk) 02:36, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Double linked template
I need your help, please. On the list of items from the Musou Warriors series, the Beast Harness pops up on the list twice under DW3. I don't know how to get rid of it. SneaselSawashiro (talk) 18:12, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

ty SneaselSawashiro (talk) 18:41, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Two questions
1. Can I share some personal stuff like stuff from my dA on other people's pages instead of other talk pages? If not that's fine (I mainly finished four different Sengoku figure movesets recently).

2. I've always had this damn question on my mind ever since I've saw him on the WO1 Baidi Castle stage (due to the Chaos Mode Solo Run videos).....WHO THE HELL IS YASU'IE NAMIKAWA....?!

SneaselSawashiro (talk) 01:49, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I see. I'll do that. The reason I wanted to do that is because I had a dream game idea out of many that uses Koei's Musou Warriors format as an inspiration base, especially for some characters' movelists.

Well, in the case of Yasu'ie, I was very curious about that one random guy who happens to be part of Orochi's forces (I kept seeing him all the time on that stage in each video of dw5chaosmodeguide since it was optimal for Chaos Mode Solo Runs). He doesn't even have an article on wikipedia or whatever so maybe he's either an OC general Koei made up or some guy who's really faded out in history. Not all of us have his game appearances in Japanese script so yeah I understand your laziness. :P

SneaselSawashiro (talk) 05:07, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Seiyuu name spelling
Derp. I should've realized that VA's have a personal way to spell and/or write their names. I've been using my own form of romaji too often; and this is actually one of the few wikis that's very informative about seiyuu and their personal lives about a majority of specific subjects (where else does it even explain that Tomokazu Seki's a bachelor?!)

P.S. Akira Ishida's role as the Gensoumaden Saiyuuki version of Zhu Bajie/Cho Hakkai may be a possible reason to why he doesn't enjoy character songs anymore; supposedly on their wiki, he received some backlash on one Bajie/Hakkai character song which akin to me, got him miffed. SneaselSawashiro (talk) 04:56, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Dragon Quest Heroes moves
No one has been entering info on the Dragon Quest Heroes playable characters moves lately. I was entering some. How am I doing so far?

Deception IV: Blood Ties
I've been wondering about something: Deception IV is a sequel to Tecmo's Deception games, however it isn't made by Team Ninja, but by a main KT team instead. In that case, shouldn't we count this particular game and it's expansion pack as Koei games, and thus cover them at the wiki (or at least count roles in this game as a roles for Koei franchises?) AntonKutovoi (talk) 18:32, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

Dynasty Warriors 9 system on "Charge Attacks" page
Hi! I see that you reverted my addition of DW9's new system on the "Charge Attacks" page. Do you think it should get a page of its own? If not, which page do you think it belongs on?DeeeFoo (talk) 23:38, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'll go ahead and expand on the section on DW9's page, and change all the terms to the official ones.DeeeFoo (talk) 23:59, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

DW9 character highlight videos
Hi. I noticed that you're very active in editing the DW characters' pages, so I thought I'd get your input. As you know, all of the DW characters' pages still feature their DW8 gameplay action trailer. Now that the next main iteration DW9 is out, would it be appropriate to start adding the character gameplay trailers from DW9 instead?DeeeFoo (talk) 20:27, February 20, 2018 (UTC)

By "action info", are you referring to their full movesets? That might prove to be a huge undertaking, given how many characters there are and how many moves they have.DeeeFoo (talk) 21:08, February 20, 2018 (UTC)

BTW, what exactly are "Unique Actions"? I know that R1+ is the character's Special Attack, but I haven't encountered "Unique Actions" in the game's terminology yet. Is it referring to just pressing undefined without any conditions?DeeeFoo (talk) 21:43, February 20, 2018 (UTC)

Ohh okay. I'll probably have to get further in the game before I have enough information to start adding their actions. Thanks for the info DeeeFoo (talk) 23:12, February 20, 2018 (UTC)

So after asking around, I have learned that "Unique Actions" and the "Special Attacks" are one and the same, referring to the characters' R1+. I don't know why they have two separate names on the DW9 page though. Also, apparently, it looks like each character has 3 unique attacks, barring their Musou: R1+, one unique Flow Attack finisher, and one unique Trigger. I guess these are the ones that would be included with their actions on their character page, while all the shared attacks go onto a possible future DW9 weapons page? Or should we include unique Flow finishers/Triggers on the weapons page, and just include the R1+on the character page?DeeeFoo (talk) 01:08, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll go ahead and get started by placing the skeleton placeholders for each character in DW9, and hope that other users can help fill them in. Should we include both the aerial and ground Musou here too?

Also, should we add the character highlight videos now along with the placeholder skeletons, or do we need to wait until all 90 characters' actions are completely filled in to add them?DeeeFoo (talk) 18:23, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Ahh, that's nice to know. I guess I'll add in their unique actions as I come across them in the game. I have another question, actually. When describing attacks that were carried over from previous iterations, do you think it's better to fully describe the attack in its entirety, or simply just say "same as _____ game"? Personally, I prefer to describe them in their entirety, since there might be users who are newcomers to the franchise looking at the pages. What do you think?DeeeFoo (talk) 19:01, February 22, 2018 (UTC)