Talk:Sun Shangxiang

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I'll revise this page when I get back tonight, really needs a face lift and some more information that is clearly missing. - Rogue Sergeant 16:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I cleaned a while ago the best I could when saw this article,(compare the selected versions in history) it only had her 4th weapon and the short bio right out the game. So I added the rest really. Please do get this cleaned up more. kudos!

First appearance
I notice a trend when it comes to a characters "First Appearance". Normally it is listed when they are playable for the first time, since that is the case i am going to edit her page and put it as DW2. since in the original DW Game, SSX was a UNPC, only playable via cheat code. Gaining her first truly playable appearance in DW2. Ixbran 21:04, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps cheat code means something different today, so I'll elaborate a bit. The cheat codes in the first DW are along the lines of an easter egg type of code. As in, something the programmers included as a bonus for fans who were keen on spotting it. Like the infamous Konami Command or the arcade codes to unlock secret characters in Marvel vs Capcom. It's something the company themselves created for fans to enjoy. Sun Shang Xiang's DW render on her page is taken from the game's actual databook, not a fan's render of her appearance within this game.


 * The first DW cheats are not a hacking or debugging tool that breaks the game's original coding is someway. They're not the cheat codes that allows you to "keep Aeris in your party after the first disc" or to "keep every recruitable character in Star Ocean 2". Short answer to both of these cheat examples: the game developers didn't want you to. Sake neko 22:13, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ixbran 23:55, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh i understand, but still. doesnt the fact that you needed a cheat, any kind of cheat, still discount her from being a main playable character?
 * I wouldn't think so. Any fighting game fan would say any legit playable character -even those using an in-game cheat or unlockable ones- would be counted as a playable character. The developers made so-and-so available even if they are hidden and players can use 'em if they knew the code.


 * Going back to my Marvel vs. Capcom example (the first game not the sequels), you would need a code to play the character Roll in the arcade editions of this game. You would need to hold start and basically draw a "Z" shape across the character select screen. If you did it correctly, you'd get Roll instead of Wolverine. Or something like that, it's been awhile. She wasn't a superb character or anything, but she'd have her own background music, winposes, moveset, and ending for herself. She was just a fun to use bonus character.


 * Omega Force didn't go that far for adding extra stuff for Sun Shang Xiang (she was a female clone of Zhou Yu and she had no ending), but she's in the same boat as Roll. A code doesn't change the fact that she's a playable character. Sake neko 15:06, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

TGS 2011 Cosplay Contestant
For anyone who cares. Sake neko 04:47, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Are her height and age jokes?
Is Sun Shang Xiang really 18 years old, 167 cm tall outside of Kessen II and 170 cm tall in the said game? Where is the proof? Where is the primary source that has this information? 67.8.14.200 21:39, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * They are official without a doubt. DW ages and heights for the majority of the older cast you can see in English if you own Dynasty Warriors 4: Empires. The newer ones outside of those games appear in data books printed by Koei. DW5 had a big one just for the characters, but the personal data for characters often appear in the visual books for a respective game.


 * As a side note, DW character ages don't really exist anymore after DW6. DW 7 has them removed and they don't appear in the 10th Anniversary book so only heights can be listed for newer characters. Someone else already listed heights for the DW7XL characters, but they probably got the info from this book. The "heights only and no ages" thing also has the WO characters in the same boat.


 * SW had ages and heights only for its first cast. They became height only characters in SW2 and SW3.


 * Kessen II heights came from this book, which I personally own and have already scanned parts of for this wiki. That's how I could confirm that Hu Zhi is actually a gender bender Xu Zhu with complete confidence, as opposed to the huge hunch I previously had for it.  Sake neko 22:52, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Name Change
Chin released info that says that many of the female characters in the series are getting their names rewritten/spelled differently by the English dev team. http://inspchin.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/chinese-female-character-names-for-future-dynasty-warriors-titles/ This applies to DWNext and Warriors Orochi 3, and any future games.

Sun Shang Xiang is one of them, so she's now officially Sun Shangxiang. Worth editing or not?


 * It just baffles me that after years of ignoring how Chinese names work that they're actually localizing it correctly now. But then again they did rightly change their minds on Cai Wen Ji and Wang Yuan Ji. So this move doesn't apply to just Lady Sun. This technically should apply to Yueying, Zhenji, Lianshi, Daji, and other such characters that have names like this. I suppose we could move the page now, but it'd be nice to get more feedback from other people before committing to it. Sake neko 19:42, February 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * According to his list it doesn't apply to Da Ji, but it does apply to the other women, I just didn't feel like spamming their talk pages. Maybe it'd just be easier to put a note that from 2012 forward their names are being spelled more correctly? At least for now?
 * I think we shouldn't really worry about moving/renaming the pages until the game comes out so we can see the full extent of the name changes. The game is still being localized so anything can still be changed from this point onward until the game is released. Kyosei 04:25, February 9, 2012 (UTC)