User talk:Sake neko

Great job here, you've been doing alot of work(more than me). Anyway, welcome to the Wiki, If you need my help I'll be more than happy lend a hand or two(though I generally have trouble lending 3 hands). Moogle Buddy 19:34, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks but you should give yourself more credit. I didn't know this place existed until a week or so ago. :) Sake neko 22:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

A late but very warm welcome
This is probably just going to seem tacky after moogles greeting, but hello all the same, and thanks for all the contributions.

I just have one thing I wanted to ask you about though; I noticed (at least in sw character articles) that you've been replacing the artwork infobox images with the concept images. My opinion is that we should use the promo arts when their the most recent, and additionally there was a consensus earlier about using the artworks. and while i dont care for the look of the concept arts, many thanks for finding and uploading them, and they can definitely be good additions to the sw2 sections/gallerys of articles.

I apologize if I'm coming across as dictatorial; all I wanted to do by bringing this up was ask for your input on the matter, so thanks again for the help. Dabigbozz42 16:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks for the compliment. I only used the concept art because I don't have a copy of the promo arts. I don't mind if they're replaced in the gallery, but I did want to add an image so the article wouldn't look blank. I add the concept art for some characters because you can't see some details very well in the promo art (Kanetsugu comes to mind). That's my two cents really. Sake neko 22:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'd like to welcome you as well to the wiki although it's a bit late. You've been doing a great job with the character articles, especially the Kessen sections. If possible just try and stick to the recently written manual of style so that articles are all written in the same way.--Aeon lord92 08:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Roger. Sake neko 08:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Grazie mille
Thanks for all the work you've been doing here, Sake neko. You've been the most active user for some time, and thank you for expanding the articles with Kessen and Saihai no Yukue information. GreatPanda 16:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm really just expanding on the Koei genre I like the most but it's nice to hear that the people here appreciate it. :) Sake neko 20:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

My God, Sake neko, you're doing way too much work. Organizing and making Categories, taking the time to tediously put articles in the correct categories, making new articles and images... Just too much work there, Sake neko. Thanks a hella bunch. Hope the Wiki isn't taking up too much of your fun! GreatPanda 00:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Nice pictures
I was going over the edits on pages, and one question I have is where did you find those pictures for Kunoichi, they are very good. I'm rather clueless at finding pictures myself, so I was simply a little curious. Also very nice work on the wikia(never seen so much work done, even when we had 5 active people, and now it's 2, you and GreatPanda). I haven't been near active enough as of late I'm going to try to be of more of a help. Moogle Buddy 01:25, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. :) If you mean the scans in her gallery section, it's because I personally own and scanned the books myself. I'm trying to do the same for other characters as well but I'm not willing to tear my pages out like the really awesome Dokuganryu. So those other scans are kinda placeholders for the time being. Sake neko 01:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Crimson Sea
I was wondering if you wanted me to make a template for you as far as Crimson Sea goes, all I would need to know is how many games they have, and the main character names. Just trying to be helpful Moogle Buddy 01:24, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. A series template might be overkill since there's only two games really made for Crimson Sea. A character template might be helpful though. I wouldn't know how to organize it, I'm still working it out in my head. :) Sake neko 01:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't think so, Warriors Orochi had 2 games(3 now) and it had one listing the the games above, and Warriors Orochi exclusive characters.It's purpose is just to give quick links from one article to another one in at the bottom that all relate, and in a small easy to find box Moogle Buddy 19:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess. I'd be more pleased if we had an infobox for the Houshin Engi characters since they've been in four games at least. It's just that as cool as Crimson Sea is, I see less of a future sequel for these games than the Warriors Orochi one. If you think it's all right though, then I wouldn't mind a template. :) Sake neko 21:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I think he is the best character except for lubu User:DWGamer196

Zhen Ji Courtesy Name
Hello Sake Neko. Nice to meet you. I've seen the recent edit you did on Zhen Ji's page. Can you correct me if Im wrong?

I'm aware that Furen litteraly means ones wife, but historically Zhen Ji was commonly called Madame Zhen. In Chinese Furen also means Madame which translates to her name Zhen Furen in Chinese. Maybe you are correct since Furen is a tittle. Historically her tittle was Furen though.
 * Yes, I'm aware of that as well. Furen is more like a title that addressing her status. Furen is not a given name for the individual; it's not as intimate as a style name, which addresses in one name where a person was born and such. I've looked everywhere -Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and so on- and so far no one knows her actual style name, putting her in the same boat as most of the other ladies from that time. Furen isn't really exclusive to Zhen Ji either as I've seen it used to describe many other ladies during ancient times (Huang Yueying and Wu Guotai immediately come to mind). This is due to the way how ladies were treated/remembered during those times. They weren't addressed or recorded under the entire given name as it was mostly limited to family or their husbands. It was formal to address them under a rank with their family name, recognizing their marriage to their husband rather than they themselves. To try to address a lady under their full name when you're not in this circle was a great offense. They kinda have a similar naming scheme in Japanese with the "x no kata", "xhime" and "x-dono".


 * You can add Furen in the historical section/information though, I won't mind. In fact, if you want, you can rewrite it as well since it's a bit lacking in some places and you seem genuinely interested in the section at the moment than I do. It's just faulty to try to say that Furen itself is an actual name or a style name for a person -it's like treating the Mrs. or Mr. as the entire name for a person when it's normally not. Sake neko 01:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I forgot to say this before but an easy way to spot if someone has a style name is to see if the character for it is present (字 followed by their style name). Also as a dorky Koei reference, Zhen Ji just says her name while her husband says his name and style name.Sake neko 03:31, 31 July 2009 (UTC)